Bad Company 2

[NekBraker]

Well, we are coming close to the release of a new Battlefield game and
believe it or not it's looking pretty good. If theres anyone else on here
besides Fate and myself I'd love to hear your opinions on this promising
new game.
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[fate_amendable]

I wasn't given much of a choice there... anonymous voting my arse. Still agree with my option though.
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[NekBraker]

Sorry I took the liberty Fate. But I was right, wasn't I?




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[mulac]

Still waiting to see what the vehicles are like, only really seen infantry vids so far. The beta is apparently only available to preorders as well.

I hope it has good vehicle play, though I do prefer infantry the vehicle side to battlefield has always been good.

I'm not getting my hopes up though, from what it could be to what it is already has me wondering... They have limited the game so much from what it can do that its just a cluster fuck waiting to happen.

Dice boasted about how the new Frostbite engine could support up to 160 odd players, yet only recently they said it will be 32 players max, before it was 24, to stay the same and the consoles I assume.

There is also the fact there is only 7 or 8 maps, I personally dont think it is enough, but we shall see. I jsut hope theres no bullshit like in 2142, unlocking the ability to run, getting a stupid badge pop up every two mins when you kill 5 people, 10 people, jsut gets fucking annoying....

[NekBraker]

Well the Betas up and running so heres my initial opinion.

Theres definately a large learning curve.
The game looks good. Visually stunning.
Mullie, the vehicles are largely realistic, Hard to see out of and hard to
machinegun from. Havn't flown yet but the helo's look cool.
The weapons are way harder to kill with. It's really hard to see and
shoot people, The world is so realistic there are alot of things to
get in the way, Trees fences, buildings, war debree etc.. it reminds
me of trying to hit people with paintballs in the woods.
Everything is effectable and reacts to fire., explosions, etc..
theres only one map and its fairly small, but geared to objective
play. Play as a team or loose.
theres no prone position just crouching.
there is a similar awards system only unlocks are not tied to medals
and such. Weapons seem to be doled out with time and experiance.

The one thing I don't like is the over all feel to infantry combat.
It really feels like a console game. Or even a little bit like CoD.
theres no prone position just crouching.

I havn't played very much yet so I'll update as I go. My gutt tells me
this won't be a great game but will be fun to play. Maybe in moderation.
It's hard to tell before other maps are released. It definately has
potential to be a great larger map game. Everything in this map
is tight and funneled into a run and gun style of play.

We shall see.


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[fate_amendable]

Yuck.

CoD is the worst online game ever (the coop and zombies were good), and I include swat 4 in this assessment. To hear something is like cod doesnt sound good.

The vehicles do sound good, I like the idea of not being able to go 3rd person, being restricted by instrumentation and not having rediculous unrealistic advantages.

I heard that the prone position will be available to the PC version but not the consoles. Whether this has any truth in it or not, I don't know. It could be the case that the shitty ported code from the consoles hasnt been fully adapted yet.

Again, the awards system can fuck off. I see no good in it at all. I believe it encourages cheating and is technically exploitation and extortion, I'm basing this on the assumption that you will be required to play in a ranked server that has to pay dues to the maker. Bullshit.

I'll probably give the demo a go, but I'm not sold on another bf game... Unless its cross platform. then we can play with maux and mock his inferior, controller-impaired gameplay.
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[NekBraker]

I'm not sure if saying it plays exactly like cod is right, Its hard to put a
finger on the way it plays. Face to face combat is a little too fast. The
problem with the vehicles is that there too easily killed. Morter strikes
called in by snipers are deadly. There's mines and Rocket propelled
grenades, as well as ground mounted rocket launchers everywhere.
The turret mounted machine gun blows unless your target sits still.
Some of the smaller heavy armor really blows, No umph to the rounds.
I have a feeling some you guys are going to be helo jocks as they really
seem to be kicking ass in this map, and theres no AA to be found or
unlocked. One of the heavy armor is aa but good luck getting in one
with a helo airbourne allready. I have managed to pick up some advanced
weapons and they do seem to be improving. Sniper fire is as usuall very
annoying and way more accurate than I can perform. The beta is rush
mode only, which is a objective based game "destroy the consoles" while
one team defends and one attacks. It's different and definately focuses
the action to certain areas. Flag based games in here may be pretty
good as it might spread the action out and allow you to work as a squad
rather than a full on two team face off, which can get lop sided quickly.
I really don't see how going after awards will benifit anyone in here.
I think hackers are going to have to go for mass kills to get ahead of
a regular player so I could see aim bots bieng huge, but there is little
you can do to advance faster than just playing and killing.
I guess the most shocking thing you'll notice is the visuall field of view.
very busy and hard to find players at distance, and you won't be picking
anyone off at distance without a snipers riffle. Weapons really degrade
fast at distance. Even the ground mounted 60's and cannons are hard to
shoot at distance. Cuts getting the tank down but you really have to stay
back and pick targets off, and a engineer is crucial.
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[NekBraker]

Ok so I've played enough to loose that lost in place feeling. I do believe
this game has great potential. Once you've advanced about 11 ranks and
have a better selection of weapons the game really starts coming around.
Cut and I have decided we hate the new rush mode and eagerly await
the ability to capture some flags. We undersatnd the graphics driver has
not yet been adapted to utilize sli or crossfire and they have alot of
things turned down for the beta so I'm hoping for some improvement
with the final release. Weapons are fairly equal with the exception of a
few over and under powered items. Cut and I have now been joined by
\sorrow so come on and join the fun. I am now, really looking forward to
the final release.

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[fate_amendable]

Its been so long since I've played anything that I'm becoming quite interested in this game. I like the idea of bringing down a building on campers. But then every bf game has had huge potential, they just did not fulfil themselves.

RVS for the win!
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[NekBraker]

A shiney new link for Fatesy.

This is a really good walkthrough of BFBC2

http://g4tv.com/videos/42695/Battlefield-Bad-Company-2-Direct-Feed-Walkthrough/


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[TyStick]

As to the player count and prone ive heard this is changed in final release, which was the whole reason we didnt get it when consoles got it, so it wasnt a port over with 24 max players with no prone, i did read 64 would be final player count but again these were articles i read, i dont work for dice or anything.

[s()rr()w]

My ten cents...

This game reminds me a lot of battlefield 2 but with more bells and whistles. Short range combat seems a little too fast and furious for my tastes but at mid to long range it smoothes out. There is a lot more customization in the kit selection and the unlocks. For instance some unlocks you get just by getting points, other unlocks require that you get so many points as a certain class. A prime example of this is that I have played exclusively sniper and have unlocked a shotgun that I can use with any kit (including sniper). Also there are a crapload of unlocks. I dunno if there is a commander for each team or not but squad play has been enhanced. You are now able to spawn on any living squad member not just the squad leader. All in all based strictly on the demo I give the game a solid eight (I am cutting ea some slack for thinks that oughta be cleared up for release)

[mulac]

[TyStick]

+ you get the same old shit where mother fuckers are really alittle to concerned about the unlocks and their awards and shit, Vicious will gimmie a amen on that one. ( sorrows a campy sniper)
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